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ONLINE JOB
SEARCH GUIDE from Job-Hunt.Org
Forbes Magazine Best of the Web for Job Hunting, 2002
CONTENTS OF
THIS ISSUE - August 22, 2002
- INSIDER
INFORMATION - From the Front Lines in the Battle to Get
a New Job -- Great Tips from a Successful
Job Hunt
- NEW,
NEWSWORTHY, AND INTERESTING SITES - 28
Web Sites Specifically for Human Resources Professionals
- Subscribing
and Unsubscribing - Directions for unsubscribing from
(or subscribing to) the ONLINE JOB SEARCH GUIDE
- INSIDER
INFORMATION - From
the Front Lines in the Battle to Get a New Job -- Great
Tips from a Successful Job Hunt
This message
originally appeared in an e-mail sent recently to members of the
WIND job networking group
in Boston when the writer ("Kathleen") accepted
a job.
Several important
points to notice -
- the follow
up process she used to make sure that her resume was noticed
by the HR manager AFTER she applied for the job online
- the way
she asked for permission to continue to stay in touch
- the way
she used networking through an association to help her to the
finish line
- the support
she got from fellow job seekers (MORE networking!!)
- that she
didn't always do everything "perfectly" but she still
got the job she wanted
Tips, insight,
and encouragement from a successful job searcher:
To all,
I have accepted
the perfect job!
How did
I find this job? Monster.com (really) BUT then I went at it
with all the networking skills you guys taught me. Sometimes
better than at other times.
In May,
it popped up on my Monster search email. I applied electronically.
Then I called them and asked for the fax # to HR. I sent a letter
and resume by fax.
Then called
back and bluffed my way into the name and email address of the
manager of HR. I sent my cover letter and resume by email.
Then I waited
3 days and called that person, "just to see if he had received
my resume." I asked when they would be calling people for
interviews.
I called
that week, "just following up on this position." It
took about 3 weeks, calling each week, asking when I could call
again. I use the phrase, "if I don't hear from you by then,
would you mind if I called you, just to follow up."
Then I went
to a meeting of a professional organization I belong to. (This
is when I didn't do so well at networking.)
There were
about 25 people there. I spoke to a few people, chit chatting
about general stuff. I think I did say I was out of work. At
the end of the meeting I mentioned that I saw the perfect job
at the perfect company and told a friend where. He said those
two guys who just left, work there! (stupid me)
I begged
the registration guy for their email addresses. I sent them
a nice email telling them the story and including my resume,
of course.
Wouldn't
you know on Monday the HR guy called me and set up the first
interview.
I asked
my favorite question, "what is the next step in this interview
process?" and "if I don't hear from you by X, is it
OK that I call you on Y."
They almost
always say yes to this question. (You must do what you said
you would.) I would call each week or as agreed and follow up.
I had my
second interview in August. The HR guy actually thanked me for
my patience with him. He "is so busy, it was good that
you called me and followed up." He didn't perceive me as
being a pest, he thought I was patient.
I thought
I was a PIA (editor note: aka "pain in the a**"),
calling and leaving so many messages. But I figured that they
couldn't have hired somebody, since it would have been much
easier for them to get me off their backs by saying "NO."
I got an
offer letter in the mail and still wasn't afraid to negotiate
the salary from there.
And now for the $.02 -
When I got
laid off in August last year (that's right one full year) I
thought, "no sweat." I'll just do my resume and send
it to my headhunter. I was getting married in October and thought,
"I'll take the time off until the wedding and by then my
headhunter will have lined up some interviews for me."
HA HA !!!
Advice #1
- begin networking and looking immediately. I really began hunting
in January.
Advice #2
- go to lots of networking groups. I started attending The Monday
Network and WIND each week. I went to North, West, and South
WIND meetings and morning and afternoon Monday Network meetings.
Each group is a different dynamic. Listen to each person's advice,
hints, and suggestions.
Advice #3
- Do something you love. I volunteer (a lot). I work with all
sorts of groups, including Special Olympics. It keeps me humble
and positive during a difficult time in my life. It is good
to have perspective.
Advice #4
- Money is important. Be frugal, understand your unemployment
rights and benefits, if your friend pays you to babysit her
kid - do it.
Advice #5
- Most importantly, know yourself. I learned so much about myself
during this job search. I know what I am good at and not good
at, and I am not afraid to tell people. I also learned what
I wanted from a company and what I could offer them.
That is
SO powerful. I was sitting in a job interview and told them,
"I don't want to work for a company that XXX." But
of course, with all my skills at researching a company, I already
knew that this company didn't XXX. I also knew what my skills
were worth and wasn't afraid to ask for it. I got a 5% raise
over my last salary and got additional benefits to get me more,
since they couldn't get more cash.
Advice #6
- go on every interview. I came home from a second interview
and got the fedex with this offer in it. Besides being good
practice for interviewing, you learn about yourself and other
opportunities, and it feels very good to be wanted. Although
I say this, I do not want to make light of the other opportunity
I had, it was a really good one and I was seriously torn.
So for those
of you still looking for the right opportunity:
- It will
come.
- Have
Faith.
- Be positive.
- Laugh
(a lot) - good advice from a fellow jobseeker
- Know
yourself, what you want, and GO FOR IT!
Thank you,
Kathleen
Shared with
permission. Thanks, Kathleen!
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- NEW,
NEWSWORTHY, AND INTERESTING SITES - 22 Web Sites Specifically
for Human Resources Professionals
Associations
are a great place to network - meet future co-workers (as Kathleen
did, above), learn about potential employers you may not have
already identified, stay up to date with your industry or profession,
and/or just increase the number of people who know you and what
you do.
Here are 28
national and internatonal associations:
American
Association of School Personnel Administrators - JOBS (a few),
plus annual national conference, professional development, and a member
directory (for members only)
American Benefits Council (formerly The Benefits Association) - a public policy organization for employer-sponsored benefit programs with a plethora of information.
American
College Personnel Association - JOBS, plus conventions and meetings,
and many other resources
American
Counseling Association - jobs (coming?), plus a national convention
and lots of resources for students and consumers
American Society of Pension Professionals & Actuaries - no jobs but a great deal of information for career retirement plan professionals, local chapters, conferences, education, and exams
American
Society of Training and Development - JOBS a national conference
plus local chapters, seminars, publications, and many other resources
Association of Career Professionals (ACP) International - JOBS, a local chapter and international events
Career Directors International (formerly Career Masters Institute) - no jobs but many resources, committees, annual conferrence, and other information for "career professionals"
Career
Management Alliance - no jobs, but searchable member directory,
meetings, and conferences
College
and University Professional Association for Human Resources -
JOBS (a few), plus a national conference, regional and local meetings,
and lots of resources
Council on Employee Benefits - JOBS plus annual conferences, members-only directory, and other information
Employment
Management Association - no jobs, but member directory (members only) and
other resources from this forum of SHRM
The ESOP (Employee Stock Ownership Plan) Association - an association for companies with an ESOP or similar plan, no jobs but infomation, resources, local chapters, and more about ESOP's
Human
Resource Planning Society - no jobs, but an annual conference, publications,
online networking, news, and other resources
Human
Resources Research Organization - JOBS (few!) plus national conference,
internships/ fellowships, and other services
International
Association for Human Resource Information Management - JOBS,
plus local chapters and meetings, special interest groups, national
conference, and other services; a member directory is available for
members
International
Association of Career Management Professionals - no jobs, but
conferences, world-wide member services and resources, through localized
directories and an extensive list of relevant links.
International
Association of Workforce Professionals
- (formerly IAPES) no jobs,
but an annual international conference and lots of resources for members
International Foundation of
Employee Benefit Plans-OnLine - Jobs plus conferences, certification and
training, internships, and an amazing amount of information for sale and/or
available for members on-line
International
Coach Federation - no jobs, but international conferences and
other information
International
Personnel Management Association - no jobs, but regional associations
(in the US) and many resources
International
Society for Performance Improvement - JOBS plus conferences and meetings,
local chapters, publications, and other information
National
Association of Stock Plan Professionals - JOBS (members only), news, information, a national conference, member directory (members only), document library
(you guessed it - members ONLY!), and other information
National
Human Resources Association - JOBS (members only), plus meetings,
local chapters in several parts of the country, and many other resoruces
Northeast
Human Resources Association - JOBS, plus meetings, seminars, conferences,
information and resources for HR professionals in the northeast portion
of the USA.
Organization
Development Network - JOBS (for members only), conferences, directory of
programs, resource guide, online resources and networking, and more
Professionals
in Human Resources
- JOBS, plus meetings, and many other resources.
Society
for Human Resource Management - JOBS (and a job alert e-mail system),
interest groups (HR Channels), meetings, seminars, and much more -
the "mother ship" for HR
Society
for Industrial and Organizational Psychology - JOBS (some) and
other resources
WEB (Worldwide Employment Benefits Network) - JOBS, local chapters, limited resources for non-members
WorldatWork.org - JOBS (a few) for compensation and benefits professionals, including professinal certifications, news, international conferences, and other resources
For tips on
leveraging association Web sites in your job search, see the previous
issues of this newsletter AND Job-Hunt's newest article, Tapping
the Hidden Job Market, excerpted above.
You'll also
find more associations for engineering, medical and healthcare,
accounting and finance, law and law enforcement, and information
technology professionals in the NEW Job-Hunt "Associations
and Societies" section.
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